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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS
Meeting no. 14
Thursday, April 11, 2002
(14)
The Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations met at
8:35 a.m. this day, in Room 160-S, Centre Block, the Joint Chairs, the
Honourable Céline Hervieux-Payette, P.C., and Mr. Gurmant Grewal, M.P.,
presiding
Representing the Senate: The Honourable Senators Gérald-A.
Beaudoin, Céline Hervieux-Payette, P.C., Wilfred P. Moore, Pierre Claude Nolin,
and Landon Pearson (5).
Representing the House of
Commons: Larry Bagnell (for Paul
Macklin), Pierre Brien, John Cummins, Wayne Easter (for Sue Barnes), Georges
Farrah (for Gar Knutson, P.C.), Gurmant Grewal, Derek Lee, James Lunney (for
Jim Gouk), Paul Macklin, Marcel Proulx (for Lynn Myers), Tom Wappel, and Ted
White (12).
In attendance: Till Heyde, Joint Clerk of the
Committee (Senate); Jean-Michel Roy, Joint Clerk of the Committee (House of
Commons); and François-R. Bernier and Peter Bernhardt, Counsel to the
Committee, Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament.
Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.
The Committee considered its permanent Order of Reference, section 19,
the Statutory Instruments Act, R.S.C., 1985, c. S-22, which follows:
Every statutory instrument issued, made or established after December
31, 1971, other than an instrument the inspection of which and the obtaining of
copies of which are precluded by any regulations made pursuant to paragraph 20(d), shall stand permanently referred to
any Committee of the House of Commons, of the Senate or of both Houses of
Parliament that may be established for the purpose of reviewing and
scrutinizing statutory instruments.
APPEARING
The Honourable Robert G. Thibault, P.C., M.P., Minister of Fisheries
and Oceans.
WITNESSES:
From the Department of Fisheries and Oceans:
François-Bernard Côté, Q.C., Senior General Counsel, Legal Services;
Sharon Ashley, Director General, Policy Coordination and Liaison;
Steve Tierney, Director General, Aboriginal Policy and Governance
Directorate.
The Honourable Robert Thibault, P.C., M.P., made a presentation, and,
together with Mr. Côté, Ms. Ashley, and Mr. Tierney, answered questions on
SOR/93-332 – Aboriginal Communal Fishing Licences Regulations; SOR/94-390 –
Aboriginal Communal Fishing Licences Regulations, amendment; SOR/94-531 –
Aboriginal Communal Fishing Licences Regulations, amendment; and SOR/95-106 –
Aboriginal Communal Fishing Licences Regulations, amendment.
Mr. Cummins moved that Counsel bring forward another draft disallowance
report at the next meeting of the Committee.
After debate, the question being put on the motion, it was negatived on
the following division:
YEAS – 7
The Honourable Senators:
Beaudoin and Nolin –2.
Members of the House of Commons:
Gurmant Grewal, John Cummins, James Lunney, Pierre Brien, Ted White –
5.
NAYS – 9
The Honourable Senators:
Hervieux-Payette, P.C., Moore, and Pearson – 3.
Members of the House of Commons:
Wayne Easter, Georges Farrah, Derek Lee, Marcel Proulx, Tom Wappel, and
Larry Bagnell – 6.
It was agreed that, at its April 25, 2002 meeting, the Committee again
hear from the departmental officials.
At 11:00 a.m., it was
agreed that the Committee adjourn to the call of the Joint Chairs.
ATTEST:
Till Heyde
Joint Clerk of the Committee (Senate)