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(Meeting No. 2)

MINUTES OF PROCEEDING

TUESDAY, November 18, 1997

The Special Joint Committee on the Amendment to Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland met in a televised session at 3:37 p.m., this day, in room 237-C, the Co-Chairs, Joyce Fairbairn and Gerry Byrne, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Pierre Brien, Gerry Byrne, Elinor Caplan, Paul DeVillers, Michelle Dockrill, Sheila Finestone, Raymonde Folco, Peter Goldring, Bill Matthews, Joe McGuire, Rey Pagtakhan.

Acting Member present: Jason Kenney for Werner Schmidt.

Representing the Senate: William C. Doody, Philippe D. Gigantès, Noel A. Kinsella, Landon Pearson, William Rompkey.

In attendance: From the Committees and Private Legislation Directorate of the Senate: Blair Armitage, Co-Clerk of the Special Joint Committee. From the Parliamentary Research Branch: Mollie Dunsmuir and Jack Stillborn, Research Officers.

Appearing: The Hon. Stéphane Dion, President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs.

Witnesses: Mary Dawson, Associate Deputy Minister of Justice, Yves de Montigny, Director General, Constitutional Affairs, Privy Council Office; The Hon. Roger Grimes, Minister of Education, Deborah E. Fry, Deputy Minister, Gale Welsh, Government of Newfoundland and Labrador; Jack Harris, Leader of the New Democratic Party of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Pursuant to the Orders of Reference adopted by the Senate on November 5, 1997 and by the House of Commons on October 28, 1997, the Committee met to consider matters related to the proposed resolution respecting a proposed Amendment to Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland with Canada concerning the Newfoundland school system.

The Hon. Stéphane Dion made an opening statement and Mary Dawson and Yves de Montigny answered questions.

The Hon. Roger Grimes made an opening statement and answered questions.

At 5:41 p.m. - The sitting was suspended.

At 6:44 p.m. – The sitting resumed.

Jack Harris made an opening statement and answered questions.

At 8:37 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Roger Préfontaine

Co-Clerk of the Committee